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	<title>Comments on: Listservs and Case Consultation- What About Confidentiality?</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Reeder</title>
		<link>http://my.counseling.org/2009/07/09/listservs-and-case-consultation-what-about-confidentiality/comment-page-1/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Reeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi DeeAnna -- Thanks for your article.  In rural areas, your concern makes sense.  We do all need to be careful.

Thanks,
Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi DeeAnna &#8212; Thanks for your article.  In rural areas, your concern makes sense.  We do all need to be careful.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
		<link>http://my.counseling.org/2009/07/09/listservs-and-case-consultation-what-about-confidentiality/comment-page-1/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no privacy on the web, including listservs. My husband is a HIPPA specialist and this has made me very aware of not even coming close to disclosing information of any kind, anywhere. If giving and receiving referrals becomes common practice then there needs to be a secure place where professionals can meet up at on the web. That place is certainly NOT a listserv IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no privacy on the web, including listservs. My husband is a HIPPA specialist and this has made me very aware of not even coming close to disclosing information of any kind, anywhere. If giving and receiving referrals becomes common practice then there needs to be a secure place where professionals can meet up at on the web. That place is certainly NOT a listserv IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: DeeAnna Merz Nagel</title>
		<link>http://my.counseling.org/2009/07/09/listservs-and-case-consultation-what-about-confidentiality/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>DeeAnna Merz Nagel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michael! Thanks for commenting! I agree that there is a place on listservs for making referrals- I am just cautioning people to think through the information before they post. My examples come from &quot;real life&quot; experience.  Having been a member of a listserv that was compiled of practitioners from rural areas of the state, in some instances, all it would take to identify said client would be to list factory, town, age and gender of the client. Imagine if Small Town USA only has one factory...while I know it is a far stretch for a breach to occur in such a scenario, I am still encouraging people to think it through. Another alternative is to offer the potential client a directory or two so that the client may also search provided the person has internet access. Thank you for entertaining my extreme examples in my attempt to make a point! 

Best,

DeeAnna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael! Thanks for commenting! I agree that there is a place on listservs for making referrals- I am just cautioning people to think through the information before they post. My examples come from &#8220;real life&#8221; experience.  Having been a member of a listserv that was compiled of practitioners from rural areas of the state, in some instances, all it would take to identify said client would be to list factory, town, age and gender of the client. Imagine if Small Town USA only has one factory&#8230;while I know it is a far stretch for a breach to occur in such a scenario, I am still encouraging people to think it through. Another alternative is to offer the potential client a directory or two so that the client may also search provided the person has internet access. Thank you for entertaining my extreme examples in my attempt to make a point! </p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>DeeAnna</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Reeder</title>
		<link>http://my.counseling.org/2009/07/09/listservs-and-case-consultation-what-about-confidentiality/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Reeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi DeeAnna,

A mostly excellent post -- thanks.  I do think you risk taking it a bit too far however in a few respects.  I suspect you will get very few dissenting responses as no one wants to be the poster-child for lax ethics!  However, it is possible -- and indeed desirable -- to use listservs to help clients look for therapists if a bit of care is exercised.

I am responding mainly to your first point: 

&quot;keep in mind if you name the town and state the client’s issue (e.g. seeking a referral for a client who lives in Anywhere, TN.  He is struggling with depression after being laid off from his factory job last month) then you potentially disclose enough information to identify the client.&quot;

Obviously, if you don&#039;t state the problem and the location, it becomes about impossible to seek referrals at all (&quot;there is a client somewhere who has a problem, please respond...&quot;).  In any town over a few thousand people your above description would apply to potentially dozens, if not hundreds, of people -- it&#039;s NOT too specific.  

I think the best way around the problem is to have a short discussion with the potential client first.  Something like &quot;Mr. Client, I&#039;d like to put an anonymous note out to a therapist listserv to see if there are any therapists in your area who can better help you.  There&#039;s a slim chance someone you know might be a therapist and be able to recognize you from the information however vague.  Should I proceed?&quot; 

In this way there&#039;s consent from the potential client.   This rather fits with your point #5 about the client having a right to know their case is being discussed.

The rise of online therapy directories is making it easier for clients to search for their own therapists and this is good.  But there are still times when a therapist can initiate the search best.  For example, when the online directories don&#039;t list the specific characteristics of the therapist sought in their standard search categories.

Thanks,
Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi DeeAnna,</p>
<p>A mostly excellent post &#8212; thanks.  I do think you risk taking it a bit too far however in a few respects.  I suspect you will get very few dissenting responses as no one wants to be the poster-child for lax ethics!  However, it is possible &#8212; and indeed desirable &#8212; to use listservs to help clients look for therapists if a bit of care is exercised.</p>
<p>I am responding mainly to your first point: </p>
<p>&#8220;keep in mind if you name the town and state the client’s issue (e.g. seeking a referral for a client who lives in Anywhere, TN.  He is struggling with depression after being laid off from his factory job last month) then you potentially disclose enough information to identify the client.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obviously, if you don&#8217;t state the problem and the location, it becomes about impossible to seek referrals at all (&#8220;there is a client somewhere who has a problem, please respond&#8230;&#8221;).  In any town over a few thousand people your above description would apply to potentially dozens, if not hundreds, of people &#8212; it&#8217;s NOT too specific.  </p>
<p>I think the best way around the problem is to have a short discussion with the potential client first.  Something like &#8220;Mr. Client, I&#8217;d like to put an anonymous note out to a therapist listserv to see if there are any therapists in your area who can better help you.  There&#8217;s a slim chance someone you know might be a therapist and be able to recognize you from the information however vague.  Should I proceed?&#8221; </p>
<p>In this way there&#8217;s consent from the potential client.   This rather fits with your point #5 about the client having a right to know their case is being discussed.</p>
<p>The rise of online therapy directories is making it easier for clients to search for their own therapists and this is good.  But there are still times when a therapist can initiate the search best.  For example, when the online directories don&#8217;t list the specific characteristics of the therapist sought in their standard search categories.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Fornell</title>
		<link>http://my.counseling.org/2009/07/09/listservs-and-case-consultation-what-about-confidentiality/comment-page-1/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Fornell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post DeeAnna, I hope every counselor on every listserv in the world reads it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post DeeAnna, I hope every counselor on every listserv in the world reads it!</p>
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